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Arduin · Jul 23, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey

Cheap way? This is to promote the use of more than one character rather than being trapped to one character because if you
don't you fail in GW2....

How are you failing if you can't get any of those useless weapon-skins/armors/mini's other people do get because of their full HoM? Anet stated over and over again you won't get any advantage over other people with your HoM.

I'd suggest this idea for just completing your HoM, for the kicks of it, for supporting playing multiple characters again. But I think you are just afraid you will be left out at GW2 launch.

pumpkin pie · Jul 23, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Arena Net gives you one inch you want 10 feet. haha

/not signed

ps: I did not signed title to be account base either, the new HoM is in my opinion breaking the game like lots of you would love to say, even more. Players who use to have the initiative to make many characters is going to now not even bother to play any other characters anymore.

Xanatas · Jul 23, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33

There are many reasons why it wouldnt work, but one very important reason why i wouldnt want it it to happen.

I already have one character that has max rank for all GWEN Reputations. With your idea, if i want to go raise reputation on any other character i can not do that in normal mode? oookaaay

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A11Eur0 · Jul 23, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I'm going to not sign this. The higher levels of the titles are harder to achieve for a reason. 10/25 missions on one char, 15/25 on another char, 25/25 account-wide? So I don't even have to take one single character to Hell's Precipice? I can just make 5 characters in Nightfall, do missions up to Venta, and have protector of elona on every character in my stable?

I think you need to stop drinking the bong water my friend.

Johny bravo · Jul 23, 2008, 12:45 PM // 12:45

I don't get it. They are titles for a reason. They represent effort put forth on a particular character in the game. If you look at it I believe the only account wide PvE based titles are lucky and tragic and in reality those are afk titles.
There are already too many thread on this whining that it is too hard to get 30 titles and they should be account based becuase I have opend 1K chest on this character and 2K on this one and I want them combined QQ. While this one isn't as bad as those it has the same premise.
The title system is character based becuase it is the accomplishments of that toon that are being recognized, not the account. It is different in PvP becuase you change classes so much to play a variety of builds so it wouldn't make sense to lock in the character class.

There is absolutly no reason why my monk should get bonuses for asuran, norn, LB or SS b/c I have another character with title progression as well. Remember those titles are reputation titles why should one character get the reputation of another one when he doesn't deserve it.

edit**
One more comment chest running. I currently am working on this for my necro, and it sucks (figure i can work on 3 titles this way and I am currently at 26). Taking my warrior or sin out for chest running would be so much easier but then why should my necro get the credit for the work done by someone else. You really have to see each character as a different person when it comes to PvE (again PvP is different)

Shayne Hawke · Jul 23, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

I'm confused on what you're asking for.

My first interpretation is that you're asking for all characters to share any points they've earned towards a number of titles. While I may agree with some titles being moved to account based, I can't agree with some other examples you gave.

My second interpretation is that you want characters' title points to be added and treated as an account title, which would then be what you use for the HoM in the account-based update. I don't see a reason why that should be implemented.

Enko · Jul 23, 2008, 01:16 PM // 13:16

I think what the OP was going for with the protector titles is that you would still have to complete all 25 missions but it wouldn't have to be on the same character.

If you're going to have the rep titles work account wide, you're going to need to raise the number of points for account wide usage. keep the single title max points the same as currently but for the account wide one, add more points.

some titles like wisdom, party, drunkard, sweet tooth, chests, etc could be made account wide though again, you might need to increase the number again.

romeus petrus · Jul 23, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

you lost me at new title.

/notsigned

Tyla · Jul 23, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

/Notsigned.

It's an interesting concept, though. Either way we have the Hall of Monuments becoming account based soon.

Kanyatta · Jul 23, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey

Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.

Unless you know what the rewards will be in GW2, this part of your argument is invalid, along with any part of your argument that uses this for its reasoning. What if the reward makes one of your storage bags red instead of khaki?

Point I'm trying to make, by not having your HoM maxed out, you are probably not going to "hurt yourself in GW2" because the reward probably won't be worth having.

MithranArkanere · Jul 23, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Although many character-based grind titles should become account-based, the achievement titles should remain character-based.

TheRaven · Jul 23, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

/not signed here.

Titles like protector are character based and I believe they should remain character based. It really doesn't make much sense to combine them together for an account based benefit.

The only part of your post that I agree with and would like to see implemented is a separate tab for Account based titles. Move the account based titles to their own tab for easier title management.

komma · Jul 23, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

F, D, F, HP (close range)

officially just finished this thread.

Ariena Najea · Jul 23, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

/signed for wisdom and treasure hunter titles

/notsigned for others, starting out with Legendary Spearmarshal and such is just silly.

Miss Puddles · Jul 24, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

the only titles i see this being logical and useful for is treasure hunter/wisdom, possibly sweet tooth/drunkard.
but people have been asking for that change forever, so /notsigned on all titles having that type of merging.

Ghostcell · Jul 25, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckboy

clearly people havn't read this post to i'd like to repost it further down

by this it does make it easier to max pve skills, but then what do u expect from making something account based? ur always gonna run into the same problem of new characters having max titles thus max pve skills from the off.

This is why i dont like the Kurz/Lux title. If u max it out, get 10k faction stored, then make a new character in faction/nightfall (proph has pre so no gh), then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills!

i still would like the idea of an account wide tab since i do most of my title/mission progressions on a spreadsheet (10 character = hard to remember who has what

), but thats more of a conveniance than anything game wise.

so the idea of an account tab - /signed
the idea of account based mission, etc. titles - /NOTsigned
the idea of some titles like treasure account based - signed

you have to be level 20 to get the kurz/lux pve only skills.

anyway its obvious anet won't ever add this stupid idea, and i'm glad that they won't.
like i said, you could have a level 10 with max norn, from just doing a bunch of NM stuff on several other characters.

Sparks Dawnbringer · Jul 25, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

/signed With an account wide system it would not be any easier to get titles it would only be easier to get them on more than one character. You still have to do all the work just not as many times.

the 55 warrior?!? · Jul 26, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

most of the reason y most ppl choose not signed is because there ether misinterpriting wat he is saying or they didnt read the hold thing so a-net, base wether you dicide to do this on ur own opinions not the opinions of retards

Trylo · Jul 26, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

this suggestion does not make getting titles easier... at all... in any aspect. the only thing this does is makes filling the HoM more account based because the sweet tooth, chest open, (un)lucky, party animal titles can be fulfilled by multiple characters, not just one (this does not make it easier, it just means you can have 500 points on one char, 250 points on two chars and have 1000 on your account). you have either misinterpreted the original intent, or dont care if youre right and just want to bash someone.

1) he states that to get above r8 in account wise in any of those eotn titles you need to be in HM. WOW that was hard to understand. and who cares if a new char has maxed pve titles...? seriously what is wrong with that i truly do not understand at all.

2) OF COURSE you cannot make 25 chars and take them through the first mission and get bonus+mission and have a title. you need to have beaten EACH mission + bonus for the account wide to recognize your title. if i did the first 15 missions+bonus of proph with my monk, then the first 10 missions+bonus of proph with an ele, account wide i would have 15/25 for missions+bonus. that wasnt too hard to understand, was it?

anyways this thread was sabotaged by people who cant read, so sorry about your idea getting such a negative reputation.

Ghostcell · Jul 26, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trylo

this suggestion does not make getting titles easier... at all... in any aspect. the only thing this does is makes filling the HoM more account based because the sweet tooth, chest open, (un)lucky, party animal titles can be fulfilled by multiple characters, not just one (this does not make it easier, it just means you can have 500 points on one char, 250 points on two chars and have 1000 on your account). you have either misinterpreted the original intent, or dont care if youre right and just want to bash someone.

1) he states that to get above r8 in account wise in any of those eotn titles you need to be in HM. WOW that was hard to understand. and who cares if a new char has maxed pve titles...? seriously what is wrong with that i truly do not understand at all.

2) OF COURSE you cannot make 25 chars and take them through the first mission and get bonus+mission and have a title. you need to have beaten EACH mission + bonus for the account wide to recognize your title. if i did the first 15 missions+bonus of proph with my monk, then the first 10 missions+bonus of proph with an ele, account wide i would have 15/25 for missions+bonus. that wasnt too hard to understand, was it?

anyways this thread was sabotaged by people who cant read, so sorry about your idea getting such a negative reputation.

even so lvl 10 with r8 norn = +18 armor, +180 health
if they added this they would loose a huge amount of the community